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Calibration Issue

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Rostock Max
.91 firmware
135c hotend
90c bed

I have run through the calibration steps multiple times and feel I have it dialed in. This includes the 4 scripts to level the bed/towers. After each adjustment to EEPROM Horizontal Radius I disconnect in Repetier as well as unplug USB. Plug everything up and bring back to printing temp. Run the scripts again and get everything perfect (as far as I know). I load my thin wall cube test GCODE and slice. I used the manual's ABS slicer profile for slicer. I run the job and the head seems to be well above, maybe .02mm above the bed. I did a test or two and adjusted horiz. rad. to be lower than I wanted. Meaning it was on the bed and not just slightly above it. This seemed to make no difference when re-slicing and and trying the test print again. The head was still too far off the bed to print.

Should I examine Z height settings through the LCD menu and start the calibration process over or is it something in EEPROM, slicer or printer config?
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Re: Calibration Issue

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I would think that just setting the Z height via the LCD should work fine. You should not have to do a complete calibration.
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Re: Calibration Issue

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Eaglezsoar wrote:I would think that just setting the Z height via the LCD should work fine. You should not have to do a complete calibration.
Eagle,

I guess my question is how does the LCD Z height calibration effect the 4 script calibration? Something isn't working for me since the 4 script calibration looks fine, but slicing and running a job seems to put the head too far above the print surface. Should I run the LCD Z height again as well as the 4 script calibration? none of the above, a;ll of the above and then throw it out the window? LOL
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Re: Calibration Issue

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If you move the head by typing
G1 Z0.2 F3000
How far above the bed does it look to be, if it's correctly calibrated it should be 0.2mm
If that is correct, look at the first few lines of the sliced object, and see what it is setting the Z height to, if it's much larger than you expect, you have a bad setting in the slicer.
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Re: Calibration Issue

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Polygonhell wrote:If you move the head by typing
G1 Z0.2 F3000
How far above the bed does it look to be, if it's correctly calibrated it should be 0.2mm
If that is correct, look at the first few lines of the sliced object, and see what it is setting the Z height to, if it's much larger than you expect, you have a bad setting in the slicer.

Here is my gcode

G21 ; set units to millimeters
M107
M190 S90 ; wait for bed temperature to be reached
M104 S235 ; set temperature
G28 ; home all axes
M109 S235 ; wait for temperature to be reached
G90 ; use absolute coordinates


G92 E0
M82 ; use absolute distances for extrusion
G1 Z0.350 F12000.000
G1 F4800.000 E-7.00000
G1 Z0.550 F12000.000
G92 E0
G1 X-15.870 Y-10.000 F12000.000


My bed size in Slicer is 280...don't think that has anything to do withe problem, but does that number seem right? My first layer height is .35 and layer height is .2
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Re: Calibration Issue

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I'd like to see a little more of the gcode, but it looks like it's moving to Z= 0.55 before trying to print (though that could be part of a z move during retract). 0.55 is probably too high to get decent layer adhesion, unless you have a 0.7 or larger nozzle.

Basically there is no difference, everything is just sending gCode, whether to calibrate, or jog or print, if when you command it to goto a particular height it's correct, but the slicer is trying to print too high, then there is a configuration problem with the slicer.
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Re: Calibration Issue

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Here is the a bigger slice of the gcode

; generated by Slic3r 1.0.0RC3 on 2014-04-20 at 17:52:23

; layer_height = .2
; perimeters = 1
; top_solid_layers = 5
; bottom_solid_layers = 5
; fill_density = .2
; perimeter_speed = 20
; infill_speed = 20
; travel_speed = 200
; nozzle_diameter = .5
; filament_diameter = 1.75
; extrusion_multiplier = 1.0
; perimeters extrusion width = 0.55mm
; infill extrusion width = 0.55mm
; solid infill extrusion width = 0.55mm
; top infill extrusion width = 0.55mm
; first layer extrusion width = 0.55mm

G21 ; set units to millimeters
M107
M190 S90 ; wait for bed temperature to be reached
M104 S235 ; set temperature
G28 ; home all axes
M109 S235 ; wait for temperature to be reached
G90 ; use absolute coordinates
G92 E0
M82 ; use absolute distances for extrusion
G1 Z0.350 F12000.000
G1 F4800.000 E-7.00000
G1 Z0.550 F12000.000
G92 E0
G1 X-15.870 Y-10.000 F12000.000
G1 Z0.350 F12000.000
G1 E7.10000 F4800.000
G1 X-15.800 Y-10.960 E7.17553 F360.000
G1 X-15.620 Y-11.700 E7.23529
G1 X-15.390 Y-12.320 E7.28719
G1 X-15.090 Y-12.940 E7.34123
G1 X-14.700 Y-13.510 E7.39543
G1 X-14.230 Y-14.080 E7.45340
G1 X-14.080 Y-14.230 E7.47005
G1 X-13.510 Y-14.700 E7.52802
G1 X-12.940 Y-15.090 E7.58222
G1 X-12.320 Y-15.390 E7.63627
G1 X-11.700 Y-15.620 E7.68816
G1 X-10.970 Y-15.800 E7.74716
G1 X-10.010 Y-15.870 E7.82269
G1 X10.000 Y-15.870 E9.39289
G1 X10.960 Y-15.800 E9.46842
G1 X11.690 Y-15.620 E9.52742
G1 X12.310 Y-15.390 E9.57931
G1 X12.930 Y-15.090 E9.63336
G1 X13.500 Y-14.700 E9.68756
G1 X14.070 Y-14.230 E9.74553
G1 X14.220 Y-14.080 E9.76218
G1 X14.690 Y-13.510 E9.82015
G1 X15.080 Y-12.940 E9.87435
G1 X15.380 Y-12.320 E9.92839
G1 X15.610 Y-11.700 E9.98029
G1 X15.670 Y-11.490 E9.99742
G1 X15.770 Y-11.080 E10.03054
G1 X15.830 Y-10.660 E10.06383
G1 X15.870 Y-10.010 E10.11493
G1 X15.870 Y10.000 E11.68514
G1 X15.850 Y10.440 E11.71970
G1 X15.770 Y11.070 E11.76953
G1 X15.670 Y11.480 E11.80265
G1 X15.610 Y11.690 E11.81979
G1 X15.380 Y12.310 E11.87168
G1 X15.080 Y12.930 E11.92573
G1 X14.690 Y13.500 E11.97992
G1 X14.220 Y14.070 E12.03790
G1 X14.070 Y14.220 E12.05454
G1 X13.500 Y14.690 E12.11251
G1 X12.930 Y15.080 E12.16671
G1 X12.310 Y15.380 E12.22076
G1 X11.690 Y15.610 E12.27265
G1 X11.480 Y15.670 E12.28979
G1 X11.070 Y15.770 E12.32290
G1 X10.650 Y15.830 E12.35620
G1 X10.000 Y15.870 E12.40730
G1 X-10.000 Y15.870 E13.97672
G1 X-10.420 Y15.850 E14.00971
G1 X-11.070 Y15.770 E14.06110
G1 X-11.490 Y15.670 E14.09498
G1 X-11.700 Y15.610 E14.11212
G1 X-12.320 Y15.380 E14.16401
G1 X-12.940 Y15.080 E14.21806
G1 X-13.510 Y14.690 E14.27226
G1 X-14.080 Y14.220 E14.33023
G1 X-14.230 Y14.070 E14.34687
G1 X-14.700 Y13.500 E14.40485
G1 X-15.090 Y12.930 E14.45904
G1 X-15.390 Y12.310 E14.51309
G1 X-15.620 Y11.690 E14.56498
G1 X-15.800 Y10.960 E14.62398
G1 X-15.870 Y10.000 E14.69951
G1 X-15.870 Y-9.919 E16.26258
G1 X-15.330 Y-10.000 F12000.000
G1 X-15.270 Y-10.880 E16.33180 F360.000
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Re: Calibration Issue

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GCode looks fine, it's printing at Z 0.35
When you command a move to that height, does it go to the correct height?
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